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S. tollui num. ord. “eighth” (Category: Ordinal Number)

S. tollui, num. ord. “eighth” (Category: Ordinal Number)

A Sindarin word for “eighth” appearing as {tolthui >>} tollui in notes on numbers associated with The Rivers and Beacon-hills of Gondor from the late 1960s, an adjective form of tolodh “eight” using the suffix -ui (VT42/25; VT42/31-32 note #37). In author’s note 5 of that document, Tolkien said that tolthui was from the Southern dialect of Sindarin, and that in modern pronunciation this had become long voiceless lh (VT42/27). Earlier drafts of The Rivers and Beacon-hills of Gondor had tolhui “eighth” (VT42/10), likely reflecting this modern pronunciation.

It is possible that the revision {tolthui >>} tollui also reflects this change of pronunciation of lth, but Patrick Wynne suggested (and I agree) that it actually reflects the change of Q. {toltea >>} toldëa “eighth” from the same document (VT42/31-32 note #37). This indicates the underlying root was revised from {√TOLOT >>} TOLOD, a root change appearing in other documents from this period (VT47/31-33). If so, then the ancient ld would in Sindarin develop into and then into voiced ll, so that tollui with voiced long ll would be the expected pronunciation.

Conceptual Development: The King’s Letter from around 1950 had mutated dolothen “eighth” (SD/129), likely based on earlier [N.] toloth “eight” from The Etymologies of the 1930s (Ety/TOL¹-OTH/OT) with a different adjective suffix -en. The Gnomish Lexicon of the 1910s had G. ungra “eighth” based on {ung >>} G. uvin “eight” (GL/75).

References ✧ VT42/10, 25, 27, 31

Glosses

Variations

Changes

Elements

tolodh “eight” ✧ VT42/25 (toloð)
-ui “-ful, having quality, adjective suffix; [as verbal suffix] possibility, suitability, *-able” ✧ VT42/10; VT42/25

Cognates


S. #tolothen num. ord. “eighth” (Category: Ordinal Number)

See S. tollui for discussion.

References ✧ AotM/62; SD/129

Inflections

dolothen mixed-mutation; t-mutation “eighth” ✧ AotM/62; SD/129

Elements

tolodh “eight” soft-mutation ✧ SD/129 (#doloth)
#-en¹ “adjective suffix” ✧ SD/129

Element In


G. ungra adj. “eighth” (Category: Ordinal Number)

See S. tollui for discussion.

Reference ✧ GL/75 ✧ “eighth”

Elements

uvin “eight”