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Q. #ó prep. “[together] with” (Category: Together)

Q. #ó, prep. “[together] with” (Category: Together)

The preposition ó “with” appeared in draft versions of the Aia María prayer from the 1950s, in the phrase i Héru olesse “the Lord is with thee” (VT43/27), along with a chart for this preposition having pronominal suffixes (VT43/29). Prepositional ó is clearly related to the prefix o- “together”. In the third version of the prayer, it was revised to carelye (VT43/27), apparently a variant of the preposition ca as suggested by Wynne, Smith, and Hostetter (VT43/29). In the fourth and final version of the prayer it became aselye (VT43/28), using an otherwise unattested preposition possibly related to √AS “beside”.

In the Quendi and Eldar essay of 1959-60, Tolkien said of primitive WO “together” that it “does not remain in Q as an independent word” (WJ/367). However, the preposition ó “with” reappeared in a phrase from 1969: vá meninye {yó >>} ó le “I won’t come with you” (PE22/162). Based on the revision of { >>} ó and the meaning of the related prefixes, it is likely that ó more specifically means “with (one other individual)” as opposed to yó(m) for “with (a group)”. However, I think ó could be used in most cases, and yó(m) is only used when accompanying a group is being emphasized.

Neo-Quenya: It seems likely that ó specifically means “[together] with”, and other senses of “with” would use other prepositions such as “with, by (means of)” or the instrumental suffix -nen.

References ✧ PE22/162; VT43/29, 36

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óme 1st-pl-exclusive-prep   ✧ VT43/29
onye 1st-sg-prep   ✧ VT43/29
óni 1st-sg-prep   ✧ VT43/29
óle 2nd-pl-prep   ✧ VT43/29
olye 2nd-sg-polite-prep   ✧ VT43/29
olesse 2nd-sg-polite-prep locative “*with thee” ✧ VT43/29
óle 2nd-sg-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ótar 3rd-pl-honorific-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ótari 3rd-pl-honorific-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ót 3rd-pl-inanimate-prep   ✧ VT43/29
óta 3rd-pl-inanimate-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ontar 3rd-pl-prep   ✧ VT43/36
onte 3rd-pl-prep   ✧ VT43/36
ór 3rd-pl-prep   ✧ VT43/36
óte 3rd-pl-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ós 3rd-sg-inanimate-prep   ✧ VT43/29
ósa 3rd-sg-inanimate-prep   ✧ VT43/29
óse 3rd-sg-prep   ✧ VT43/29

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Q. #as prep. “with” (Category: Together)

See Q. #ó for discussion.

References ✧ VT43/29

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aselye 2nd-sg-polite-prep “*with thee” ✧ VT43/29

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