Q. Ilmen loc. “*Place of Starlight”

Q. Ilmen, loc. “*Place of Starlight”

The region above the air where the stars are, through which the Sun and Moon travelled (S/99, SI/Ilmen). The name is probably a compound of Ilma “Starlight” and men “place”, meaning “Place of Starlight”.

Conceptual Development: This name first appeared in Silmarillion drafts from the 1930s as ᴹQ. Silma >> Ilma >> Ilmen, translated as “Place of Light” (SM/240-1). It appeared in The Etymologies as a derivative of ᴹ√GIL, described as the “region above air where stars are” (Ety/GIL). These earlier appearances are the source for the etymology given above.

References ✧ MRI; SA/ilm; SI

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Elements

*Ilma “Starlight” ✧ SA/ilm (ilm-)
men “way”

ᴹQ. Ilmen loc. “Place of Light”

See Q. Ilmen for discussion.

References ✧ Ety/GIL, WIL; LRI; SDI2/Ilmen; SM/236, 240-241; SMI/Ilma, Ilmen; TII; WRI

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Elements

Ilma “Starlight” ✧ Ety/GIL
men “place, spot”

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Derivations

Phonetic Developments

ᴹ√GIL > ilmen [gilmen] > [ɣilmen] > [ilmen] ✧ Ety/WIL